Porsche

"CAcoalminer" (CAcoalminer) 09/08/2014 at 10:33 • Filed to: None

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So I took this photo yesterday and I thought I would share it will all of you since I know a few of you are Porsche enthusiast. I know it's not one of Porsche's more exclusive models, but I thought all of you might enjoy seeing it.

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:33

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french car? I thought you were in italy.

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 10:36

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I was in Italy (I'm on a flight back home currently). This photo was taken last night while my wife and I were walking the streets of Rome after dinner.

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:37

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i miss rome. europe in general, but rome is pretty special.

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 10:40

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It definitely is quite an amazing city.

Are you originally from Europe?

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:42

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nope, but I've travelled extensively throughout europe. What are you flying on the way back?

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 10:47

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Ah, I see. Where has been your favorite trip?

American.

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:48

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Discovering Paris on your own is pretty incredible. My favorite trip is probably my recent BMW Euro Delivery, in part because of the delivery experience, but more because I was able to do something pretty special for my dad, who came with me. We don't get very many opportunities to do something for our heroes.

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 10:57

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I agree. Paris is quite a fascinating city and has tons of terrific museums. In addition, I'm always amazed at how beautiful and ancient some of the buildings are in Europe. The amount of history is incredible.

What model did you end up getting?

That's great to hear.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:57

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997s are the best looking 911, in my opinion. This car is beautiful, I'm just not a fan of the cross-taillight thing that "4"s have.

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 10:59

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CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 11:03

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I'm right there with you. What's interesting is that this car actually had GTS wheels (sorry I didn't get another picture) so it looked even better in my opinion.

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 11:04

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Wow that's beautiful.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 11:24

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Dem hips...

Glad to hear you had a good trip. I was at the track this weekend (Hallett) - moved up a group and got my solo sticker! Was a great time; will be sharing photos and video (if it turned out okay).

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 11:25

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thanks. she's great.

CAcoalminer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/08/2014 at 11:35

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Indeed.

Thank you it was definitely enjoyable.

That's great to hear. Are you nipping at the heels of a new track record? Haha. I look forward to seeing your photos and video.

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 11:37

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How was the European Delivery process?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 11:38

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Ha! Getting better, but plenty of work still to be done... My best lap was a 1:41.1, a faster driver with car similar to mine was 5 seconds faster, and an instructor with a similar car was 5 seconds faster than him!

CAcoalminer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/08/2014 at 11:43

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Wow. Some of those drivers never cease to amaze me. Maybe they just know how to setup their cars better or they're braver. Most likely both in my case at least. Haha

Have you made any track oriented modifications to your vehicle?

heliochrome85 > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 11:46

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Absolutely incredible. I can't imagine buying a car any other way. This is from a friend of mines' blog.

http://thrumylens.org/featured/a-tri…

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 11:50

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I really should have asked what mods they've done.

I've deleted the primary cats and have a tune - worth ~40 hp. Using StopTech Street Performance, which are good, but it might be time for dedicated track pads (and maybe a BBK up front). I doubt that I'll mess with the suspension while it's still my daily driver.

CAcoalminer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/08/2014 at 14:13

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That would be interesting to know.

Since you have deleted the cats, have you seen more soot coming out of your exhaust?

CAcoalminer > heliochrome85 09/08/2014 at 14:14

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Very interesting. Sounds like quite a good experience.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 14:36

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I still have the secondaries on, but no, I've not noticed any more than normal.

CAcoalminer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/08/2014 at 14:47

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Good to know.

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 18:01

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Mmm dat GTS

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 18:03

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I agree.

The first time I didn't mind that light bar was on the 991. It looks kind of cool at night.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:28

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I mean that one right there looks positively bonerific, but in general I like the non-4s more...

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:28

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Indeed. It looks even better with a wing.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:30

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That's basically my dream 911 right there.

CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 19:31

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It does look quite outstanding.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 19:34

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I like RWD more too. I think the new light bar looks better than the old because of how th in it is and because the LED design makes it one long bar. You don't see the small individual LED bulbs.

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:35

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That is the closest thing you can get to a GT3 with rear seats!

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:37

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Indeed but roll cages do look pretty cool.

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:39

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And if you don't have small children then the back seats don't help much anyways.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:39

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Honestly, unless you live somewhere with perfect roads and you never haul anything, GT3s can be less than practical. This is the better all-arounder.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 19:42

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Are they even that stiff? Doesn't the 997.2 GT3 have PASM? My base Carrera is pretty damn stiff with those fixed dampers

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:43

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Exactly. I mean you still have a frunk for groceries and other items.

However, if you must have a GT3 and kids, you could install the back seats.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:44

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I've ridden in one, and I've driven an older one, but you are asking the wrong guy.

If only there was someone, a good Opponaut friend of ours, who had a GT3 4.0, and was willing to tell us about it...

;)

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:44

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WhoI haven't seen that done. Cool!!!

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 19:45

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Oh yeah haha I forgot about dat 4.0

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:47

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I've never seen it in real life but someone on Rennlist did it. Needless to say they gave him a hard time.

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:49

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Haha I wouldn't give him a hard time. I think it's kind of cool. Not all GT3s see the track and need a cage. Still fun to have one on the street. And cool for the kids to get in on the fun!

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:50

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That's exactly why he did it. I mean look at this:

Here's the thread:

http://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2…

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 19:52

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Then again, even a 4.0 might seem soft to somebody that used to drive a CGT

;) ;) ;)

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 19:53

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Haha that is so awesome! Who says the back seats are useless! They do work for small children :)

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:04

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Exactly.

macanamera > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:04

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(you know who I'm talking about right?)

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:05

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Damn it my cars are for plebs. I need something unique

Vicente Esteve > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:08

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I have to say this is my second favourite gen of the 911. With the LED tail lights that is.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:15

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I don't know if you are picking up what I'm putting down here...what I'm trying to say is that a mutual acquaintance of ours used to have both a 4.0 and a Carrera GT.

And his name rhymes with PAbowldiner.

CAcoalminer > Vicente Esteve 09/08/2014 at 20:15

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It is quite a looker.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:16

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Haha I did pick up on it. I remembered he used to have those sweet, sweet Porsches

Which further saddens my choice in buying a base Carrera. Brian dubbed low optioned base Carreras "Rustocars"

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:21

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Hahah Rustocars, I love it. That being said I'm sure you realize you are getting 99% of the engineering in your "Rustocar" as a heavily optioned version...

Vicente Esteve > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:22

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I know! To me, it strikes the balance of old 911 and new 911 almost perfectly. The 993 does it perfectly.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:26

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Haha yeah true. I just wish I had PASM! I've driven cars with PASM and they are awesome. But actually what I really wish Porsche did was follow GM and Ferrari and Audi and use magnetic dampers. Corvettes, F430s and R8s are the shit because of those sweet, sweet dampers. You don't have to think to change settings. You just attack the corners and the computer stiffens them up automatically. It really is magic.

CAcoalminer > Vicente Esteve 09/08/2014 at 20:27

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My thoughts exactly.

CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:31

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I don't think he knows who you're talking about.

Edit: I just read further.

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:33

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I quite like the 12c's hydraulic suspension.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:35

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Haha. Don't worry, I was discreet...

By the way, one of these days I would love a comprehensive list of all the awesome cars you have had...Rusto and I will keep your secrets!

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:36

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From what I read the 12C's suspension is even a step up from magnetic dampers. It's the holy grail.

Never ridden in one though. Does it soak up bumps like a champion?

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:38

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If you have it in it's softest setting, yes. It's honestly astonishing the way you can go from super smooth to quite stiff with the flick of a switch.

Here's a review I wrote for Brian a while back about my 4.0 in case you're wondering:

"Well I don't have quite enough time for a full in depth review tonight but I'll share some, hopefully helpful, insights. When talking about the RS 4.0, I always like to compare it to its big brother the GT2 RS. Both cars are not only the best cars that Porsche makes but truly can hold their own against rival supercars (or whatever we're calling them these days). In terms of brake feel and steering, I don't think that anything comes close (the enjoyment of the steering wheel dancing around in your hands on a bumpy Texas back road is something that truly must be experienced to be believed). In addition, they are both cars that require "deliberate" inputs (you definitely can't operate the shifter with one finger like the GT). These factors all combine to make these two exciting to drive but also quite a handful on public roads. While they may have license plates, these two are definitely street legal race cars. Their rides are quite stiff, their engines need to be revved to get the best out of them, their tires are semi slicks and, therefore, have very little traction in the wet, and the road noise is quite pronounced. Now let me be clear, I have no problem with these traits, in fact I find them quite endearing, but I think people need to understand the purpose behind the engineering of these vehicles. They weren't meant to be the car you get in every morning and calmly drive to work in. That's what the Carrera and Turbo models are for. No, these vehicles were designed to make the driver work behind the wheel and turn ever drive into an event. Yes, they may not be as quiet or as easy to drive as their other 911 siblings but that's what makes them so special. The best way I can describe it is think of video games you've played. With the easy game you beat it within a few days and face little to no struggles along the way. In this scenario, the individual will feel pleasure for a small period of time but it will fade soon after. However, with harder video games you were constantly getting frustrated because you couldn't pass that one level or work out that last minor detail. You had to exert real effort and it challenged you both mentally and, to a smaller degree in this example, physically. Therefore, when you finally finish this game in 2 weeks or a month compared to a few days with the easy game, you will feel like you actually accomplished something and that feeling will stay with you for much longer. Well that's how these two cars are. They will have you cussing, yelling, and swearing that you hate them but when you finally learn their secrets and start driving them in the manner intended, you'll wonder why anything else still maintains a spot in your garage.

I didn't intend for this piece to be so philosophical or long but sometimes my mind starts going and things just come out. Anyway, here are some impressions of both vehicles. Both feature huge carbon ceramic brakes that can stop each car so violently that you will have racing harness impressions on your chest. In addition, both have "high strung" engines that need to revved out as the 4.0 and GT2 RS don't hit their sweet spots until 5,000 and 4,000 rpms respectively. However, the 4.0's is much more enjoyable both in power delivery and aural pleasure. Also, the 4.0 hooks up much better out of corners due in no small part to the fact that both cars wear the exact same Michelin Pilot Sport Cup+ tires (F-245/35/19, R-325/30/19) and it has 120 less hp and 177 less lbs. ft. On top of this, the 4.0 interestedly also feels much lighter than the GT2 RS even though their claimed curb weights are only 77 lbs. apart. However, the GT2 does have a more effortless feel to the way it gains speed when in the power band and accelerating hard. Finally, maybe it's just because I'm a skinny, old gentleman but I find both cars optional sport bucket seats quite comfortable while still being able to hold me firmly in place."

CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:39

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Geez that would be quite the list.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:42

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Haha! That's a list I would truly love to read, if you ever have the time...

CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:42

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I'll see what I can do. Haha

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:42

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That was awesome, thank you! Very cool. I feel like I've driven the 4.0 now.

If only budgets and garage space were infinite. You could still have it and the current stable. And a 458. And a 16M, lol

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:43

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Yeah, can confirm, drove 12c, suspension is pretty awesome.

macanamera > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:45

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^This is awesome, I enjoyed reading it. Great insights.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:46

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Must have orange 12C Spider once the prices drop more. Imagine if they hit $100K. We'll HAVE to buy one then.

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:47

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You're welcome. It's definitely not my best work ever but it does a decent job of summing up the 4.0.

I've considered getting back into one but the prices are crazy high right now and I don't track my cars nearly as much as I used to.

CAcoalminer > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:48

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Thank you.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 20:48

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Done deal. Extracting kidney as we speak.

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 20:51

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Yeah that would be rough to buy one now after all that appreciation. It would be more fun to pick another car that you think will see a jump in value over the next few years instead of one that saw a big jump in the last few.

I got it! Get a 512TR

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 20:52

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Have you spent your 401K yet?

(I have)

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 21:00

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I turned 24 a week ago. My 401k is emptier than the grocery store Chris Christie buys food from.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 09/08/2014 at 21:03

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LOL!

Mine wasn't worth much either. I didn't actually cash it all out. I just took a loan against it to avoid penalties. I didn't want to have to rush to sell a car and needed cash, lol

CAcoalminer > Manuél Ferrari 09/08/2014 at 21:05

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But I thought my next car was going to be an Eagle E-type?

Manuél Ferrari > CAcoalminer 09/08/2014 at 22:40

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Oh yeah I already forgot!